well, my very powerful laptop barely every gets any noise. Most of the time it is silent until I am compiling something. It is of course apples fault as their cooling is suboptimum

Is Apple's cooling suboptimum or is Intel's TDP suboptimum?

"Make it thicker and heavier" is apparently not the answer that Apple was looking for from Intel.

Thin and light Wintel PCs are known for having a lot of thermal issues too.